: Water For The Americas

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General questions

By Aqua Clara International Posted on Tue 25 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Hi and welcome to the discussion!
I just had a look at your website and am interested to learn more about your project. I appreciate that you have details on each project online but I would like to find out more about the decision making process. How is a community selected? Who do you work with within a community setting to determine which is the correct water system for their needs? Do you source the materials for the project in the USA or in country? What is your follow up procedure and do you have any statistics that show how the systems are cared for in the longer term?
Thanks,
Claire

General questions

By Water For The Americas Posted on Thu 27 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Here are the answers to your questions in order.

How is the community selected?
The vast majority of our projects have been in partnership with Rotary and funded by the Rotary Foundation with Matching Grants. To obtain a Rotary Foundation Matching Grant, there must be a partnership between a host country Rotary club, like Guatemala, and another Rotary club, like a U. S. Rotary club. For our projects, the host country Rotary club picked the project. For our last four projects, the Rotary Club of Chiquimula, Guatemala picked the projects, managed the money according to Rotary guidelines, and helped with the final report. The club members are actively involved during the project, purchasing materials, helping with project tasks, taking pictures and communicating with all of the partners.
For our two projects in El Salvador, the projects have been in partnership with the Colorado State University, CSU, Engineers Without Borders, EWB, Chapter and the chapter picked the projects that were originally submitted by a Peace Corps Volunteer working in the two adjacent villages. One of our organizations was made a CSU Adjunct Professor so he could officially travel with the students and help with the technical aspects. Funding for these projects was also mostly from Rotary.

Who do you work with in the communities?
In all of the small rural communities that we have worked in there has been some sort of organization like a water board or community development council. In some Central American communities these organizations are called COCODE’s (Los consejos comunitarios de desarrollo). Before we will accept a project with a community, they must agree to do two things. They must supply all non-technical and non-skilled labor for the project. They must also have all residents pay for both the cost of running the system and to build a maintenance fund.

Do you source the materials locally?
Yes, all materials are purchased locally, usually from or through a local ferreteria.

What is the follow-up?
We are very interested and concerned with sustainability and are trying to improve this with each project.
For our completed projects in El Salvador, we rely on two avenues for follow-up. The first is the EWB Chapter and the second is through one of our BOD members who communicates frequently with the water board members in the two communities and has visited the adjacent communities several times since the projects were completed.
For our projects in Guatemala, two completed, one in the final stages and one just started, we have a planned follow-up and sustainability plan. The funding for one of the projects built a water testing facility (around $15,000 US worth of equipment) in the local branch of San Carlos University, called CUNORI (El Centro Universitario de Oriente). In the first three projects a Peace Corps Volunteer did a health survey or some residents at the start of the projects. We are just now starting to plan to resurvey the original families as we start to test their water to make sure that the treatment system is working correctly. This will be done by CUNORI students.
In the project just starting, with a new Rotary Global Grant, the original assessment was done by CUNORI students and staff and Chiquimula Rotarians using the World Bank Assessment Model. The project proposal listed the assessments and measurements that will be done in 3, 5 & 7 years. In all of the four Guatemala communities where we have worked, we have trained the local leadership group using the World Bank COCODE Training Document. This training will aid in follow-up and sustainability.
Probably the best assurance of long term sustainability is the commitment by the local Rotary club and our team to continue to carry out water and other humanitarian projects in that area as long as we can find funding. There are enough needs in the small rural communities to last many years. Continued presence and planned follow-up are the best way to insure sustainability.

Do you have any statistics.
No, not yet.

I hope these answers are not too brief.
Alan

General Questions

By Water for People Posted on Tue 25 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Impressive work. To add to Claire's questions, can you clarify how you address capacity building issues. It appears that projects are designed in the US - how are they maintained locally? Does Water for the Americas fully fund a project or are there in-country financial contributions?

Thanks,
Monica

General Questions

By Water For The Americas Posted on Thu 27 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Monica,

I think that I have answered your questions in my reply to Claire. If not I can supply more information.

Just a little more.

U.S. and Guatemala Rotary Clubs are doing more than just water projects in these communities and we hope that the COCODE Training will help the be significant in capacity building. Water for the Americas is just involved in the water related projects, but aware of the other work.

Water for the Americas has supplies a small amount of the funds. The local Rotary Clubs donate some money as does their Rotary District.

Alan

Follow up and empowerment

By Rotary District 5450 Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Congratulations on the good work you've been able to accomplish in Central America. Your answers to Claire and Monica were very informative. I aso have done numerous Rotary water projects in Africa.

I wondered if the problems I encounter in Africa are ones you have already resolved in Central America. For example, Rotary Clubs accepting projects a considerable distance from their club tended to place follow-ups on the back burner if the projects were in remote areas. New projects and business priorities demanded their attention. They also placed a lower priority on projects that were generated by 'visitors' rather than their own club members.

Where I work in Africa, communities are always wiling to form water committees and help with the project development. After time, however, community members sometimes find more pressing needs than paying their monthly fees for operation and maintenance of the system. When the project breaks down, the repair funds are no longer available. how would you handle that situation if it occurs on projects you have constructed?

Follow up and empowerment

By Water For The Americas Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Don,

I have attended your District 5450 Water Task Force meetings with Joe Mazzola of the Broomfield Rotary Club. Broomfield Rotary has supported our water projects for 6 years. A member of our BOD is the technical advisor for the two Dominican Republic water projects that Broomfield Rotary is now sponsoring. Joe leaves to visit the site next Tuesday.

Besides my role with Water for the Americas, I am the current President of the Rotary Club of Fort Collins.

I cannot answer your question about what to do if communities do not continue to support their systems because each situation is different. We have had similar experiences where we did just one project in an area. What I can say is that for us the important part is to have strong supporters locally. We are lucky to have picked an outstanding Rotary Club in Guatemala to work with and they have been very careful in picking communities that will be successful. It also helps to make a commitment to continue to work in both the community and area in the future versus do one project and then go elsewhere. If you look at the PowerPoint presentation about El Carrizal, we show the signed agreement of the community members to both do the physical work for the project but also to pay the maintenance fees. That written commitment helps keep community members committed. Also you will see in the Agua Zarca PowerPoint that the Mayor of San Jacinto and the Governor of the Department of Chiquimula were at the celebration of the completion of the project. That support is also important. Even that said, people get burned out, supporting government officers change, and organizations fail. I do not have a magic pill for that situation.

We picked Central America to work in because it would be fairly easy to visit routinely. Members of Water for the America visit the area a couple of times a year and members of the Rotary Club of Fort Collins have visited the area each of the last four years. The more you can visit the area you are working in the more you show your commitment.

Alan

Points of Importance - for learning

By Team Blue Posted on Sun 13 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

Hi,

Having read your profile and attached documents, I list below some questions I believe are important. While they are questions, I do not list them as criteria for membership. I put them out based on my experience as learnings to extract from past projects and future projects to help streamline operations. Some forum in PWX should capture these as good learning for the entire sector.

Firstly, you have nearly ten years of implementing similar projects co-financed by Rotary. Good experience - I hope that you get a chance contribute to this forum.

Government cooperation – Any co-financing in cash or in-kind? What roles do the local government agencies play?

Has there ever been a Project Evaluation of WFTA carried out by independent consultants?

Are the water systems equipment and materials fairly standardized for all the WFTA sites? Are there independent supervisors to ensure quality control? How often do they have periodic inspections by independent contractors?

How about equipment and materials costs – I assume that all goods and materials are purchased using a competitive bidding process.

Are equipment, goods (pumps, controllers, pipe, etc.) and other materials purchased in bulk?

Are water managers routinely given training to upgrade their skills and knowledge of water and sanitation system design, construction, O&M, and management?

Are community members trained to provide services (such as occasional leak inspections) so that water system managers are quickly informed and any problems are quickly addressed?

Welcome to PWX!
Rick

Points of Importance - for learning

By Water For The Americas Posted on Mon 14 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

Rick,

The first entry is a comment. I think that we have learned from each project and feel we are getting better in all phases.

Government cooperation. The three projects we have completed in the San Jacinto, Guatemala, municipality were in full cooperation with the local government or we would not have done them. These projects were originally supposed to be done with Guatemala grant money, but the last mayor ran off with most of the money leaving partially completed or not even started projects, long story. The new mayor of San Jacinto has been very helpful as have his staff. You can see the mayor and staff participating in the planning and in the actual work in the PowerPoint presentations posted here for El Carrizal and Agua Zarca. Government cooperation is a mixed story, some are great, some average and some not so good. We do not need the local government's help to complete a good project, but it helps and if they are good they can help point out problems after project completion.

We have not had any of our projects evaluated by an independent group. That would be great but expensive. With the planning done by our experts, with the help of the local muni staff, local Rotary Club members, community members and local University staff, I think we come up with the appropriate project.

Each project has its different characteristics and the design is specific to the source, terrain, community skill, etc. Where needed, skilled workers are hired. We are just starting to do more training and follow-up. Several partners credibility in the area is dependent on the projects working to meet the needs both short term and long term. I think that independent supervisors and quality control are out of the question for a $25,000 water project in very rural communities. Believe me, the local Rotarians will hear about failures and do not doubt the skill level of the local people, given the proper resources.

Rotary requires competitive bidding and detailed materials lists on supplier letterhead. Receipts are required on final project reports as well as bank statements. In the process of bidding, we have been notified by local Rotarians about their belief that a bid was too high. In one case, the cost was less than the bid and we asked the Rotary Foundation if we could use the savings to do more training. They agreed.

We do not purchase in bulk. Each project pays for just the materials that are needed. We do have a good reputation with the local suppliers now and some of the materials are purchased in bulk by them.

We are doing more and more training with each project and know that training needs to be continued after the project is done. Financing that has been a problem. As stated in an early question we are using the World Bank COCODE training manual to train the local water board or Community Development Group. It has been hard and will continue to be hard to make the connection between sanitation practices and health besides water quality and health. We tried to get one community to try composting toilets, and they said NO. We will keep trying. Staying active in the same general area and having good local partners is the only way that can be done. Our project funds do not allow for international travel, and none of our board has unlimited funds.

We expect to get both local University staff and students to do ongoing water testing with the lab that we funded and to do ongoing assessments of the projects and health of community members. The first project is about three years old and it is a good time to start that.

Cannot give all of the details of several years of effort.

Please provide some more detail of your work in Guatemala

By Agua Para La Salud (APLS) Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

I have not encountered you since you work primarily in coastal plain communities and we work in the central highlands.

Could you please provide some more details for the work in these projects:
1. San Jacinto water project in Agua Zarca;
2. the school project in Sabana Grande;
3. the project not yet funded.

I would like to learn about your designs and construction techniques and their practicality for rural Guatemala.

The water testing lab on the surface seems like a good idea except for the fact that only about 10% of the municipalities ( 350) in Guatemala (and probably less in rural villages) have actually started using chlorine to purify water while the Governemnt issued orders to all to do so about five years ago.

So the question is what do they do with the water test information and has the installation of the lab resulted in any municipalities or villages installing water treatment facilities. This is the real test of the labs utility. Other question are who funds the salaries of the lab;what is the cost to a community for the water test; how many tests are done each month; who funds the installation of water purification systems if a community wishes to act on the lab results?

Regards,
Lynn

Re: Please provide some more detail of your work in Guatemala

By Peer Water Exchange Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Lynn,

Thank you for your insight and request. This is what makes the peer review process so great - all the expertise in people working in the field can be tapped.

Alan and Gary,

After you become members, i would be happy to work with you on putting all your projects on PWX so that your portfolio can be visible and your experience better shared with the water community.

Regards,
Rajesh

Please provide some more detail of your work in Guatemala

By Water For The Americas Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Lynn,

I have uploaded to this site two PowerPoint presentations of completed water projects near Chiquimula. One is El Carrizal and the other is Agua Zarca Phase I. This should answer your questions about what we did and the approach that we took.

The school in Sabana Grande is in the recently approved Rotary Global Grant and is just starting. I will copy the information from the Water for the Americas project information form.

Project Title: Sabana Grande school potable water project

Project Background:
The Escuela Nacional Regional – Raúl Mejía González School is located in the Aldea of Sabana Grande, department of Chiquimula, Guatemala. The primary school has more than 400 students and is the site of a recent Rotary Computer Lab Project (69068). While the educational resources of the school are improving, the school still lacks a source of sufficient potable water for the children. The site was visited in April 2009 by members of the Cheyenne and Chiquimula de la Sierra Rotary clubs and Water for the Americas member Keith Thompson. There is no surface water on the school property, but there are springs and a stream nearby which suggest the presence of readily accessible ground water.

Project Description:
The goal of this project is to provide the children of the Sabana Grande School with a readily available source of safe drinking water. The main elements of the project will be a shallow well, a simple disinfection system and a storage tank.
The scope of the project shall include:
• Installing an elevated 1100-liter water storage tank on an existing school structure
• Digging and encasing a hand-dug well 15-20 meters deep
• Installing a submersible pump and 1” PVC transmission pipe and control wiring from the well head for 250 meters to the elevated storage tank located at the school.
• Installing a low-maintenance chlorine disinfection system
• Connecting the new water supply to the school’s existing water system, which is currently supplied by water brought to the site by tanker truck.

Co-Sponsor(s):
Rotary Club of Fort Collins
Rotary Club of Chiquimula de la Sierra
Rotary Club of Cheyenne
Rotary Donor Advised Fund, DAF
Water for the Americas

I cannot answer all of your questions about the water testing lab because it was just installed, part of the latest Matching Grant that is not yet completed. The university has told us that they would not charge us for testing water samples from our projects for the first couple of years. We have not gotten any farther than that.

Our biggest unfunded project is the rejuvenation of the Taco River Watershed that provides Chiquimula with the majority of it water. This is at least a $500,000 project. In late 2008 and early 2009 we prepared a Rotary 3-H Grant proposal with the Rotary Club of Fort Collins for $330,000 to work on the watershed. The proposal was accepted, only to have 3-H Grants suspended for the rest of 2009. Now the Rotary Club of Fort Collins is in the Rotary Future Vision "Pilot" program and cannot apply for 3-H Grants. The Chiquimula branch of San Carlos U., CUNORI, has done an extensive study of the watershed and has outlined 18 separate projects for its rejuvenation. This was the basis of the 3-H Grant. This project is listed at www.matchinggrants.org and at the WASRAG (now Startwithwater) web site. I could easily send copies of the 3-H Proposal. The current Rotary Global Grant # 25015, just started, is an attempt to do parts of this watershed project.

Alan

Rotary Water and Sanitation Action Group - WASRAG

By Team Blue Posted on Sat 05 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

Excellent dialog above demonstrating how Rotarian's can translate major world needs (polio, water, etc.) into local results oriented projects. From your web site, I see a useful list of links including one to Rotary International but not the Rotary water related action group (WASRAG) and its new web site wwwstartwithwater.org. Conversely, I see no link on their site to organizations like WFTA or PWX. Would inter-connectivity be a worthwhile addition to present programs largely funded and managed at the club/district level?

Keep the focus toward the "long term goal of WFTA .. to expand into water shed development and help improve management of multiple rural locations sharing common water supplies within a given region". Very powerful statement that implies need for knowledge being shared among all organizations working in a given region.

Roger

Rotary Water and Sanitation Action Group - WASRAG

By Water For The Americas Posted on Mon 07 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

We will update the list of links on our web site to include PWX and WASRAG. I am a member of WASRAG, but have not been too successful in getting much help from them. I attempted to have our approach be included in one of the WASRAG breakout sessions at the Rotary Convention in Montreal last June, but our project was not accepted. It seemed to me what was accepted was based more on being a leader in WASRAG than on the project. Our project made a secondary list that was supposed to be part of a short PowerPoint presentation that ended up not being included in the breakout session. A lot of work and anticipation for nothing. So, just like our disappointment with EWB, we will keep trying to work with WASRAG.

And yes, we are trying to focus on watershed rejuvenation. I think it is the ultimate sustainability effort for water. All of our current and past water projects have improved the use of and access to existing water, wells & springs. What happens then is like improving infrastructure in the US, like roads. More people, like relatives, move into the area where we have provided better access and potable water and there is the very good possibility that the water source will not supply the new population. We will keep doing these projects for small rural communities even though we recognize this possible outcome.

Rejuvenating a water shed is very expensive and since we have lost our access to the Rotary 3-H Grants we have not found a source of funding to be able to carry out the excellent plans of our partners at the branch of San Carlos U. Some of that is because what needs to be done is mostly training of the local inhabitants in how to protect the water sources with better farming practices. It is not easy to get funders to understand that training of farmers in more appropriate farming practices is linked to a "water project". Or that training local watershed inhabitants in new skills to improve their income is linked to them accepting new habits that will improve the water carrying capacity of the watershed. At least we have not been successful in doing this. It seems that all funding sources are stretched and it is just much easier to fund a small specific project, and not something that will take several years and cost several hundred thousand dollars.

We will keep trying.

Alan

Rotary Water and Sanitation Action Group - WASRAG

By Team Blue Posted on Tue 08 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

Thanks for this feedback on the results of your efforts with WASRAG. Let's hope that their new web site becomes more linked with organizations like WFTA, PWX and many other organizations with information on water project status. Perhaps others reviewing your application could comment on experiences where collaboration in a water shed has led to acceleration of efforts to bring safe water to communities.

Education and acceptabilty

By Pure Water for the World Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Hello to all,

A key element in developing a sustainable water project is education and having the community accept the project. Can you please share with us the method by which you gain community acceptance and what educational tools you use to encourage people to change habits - such as hand washing and clean water storeage.

As a Rotarian who have been involved with Rotary Water project primarily in Honduras, I have learned that the level of investment by local Rotarians wanes. How do you keep local Rotarians, who usually have other professions, engaged with the project?

Thank you.

Education and acceptabilty

By Water For The Americas Posted on Fri 28 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Carolyn,

Water for the Americas is a small non-profit that does not have any paid personnel and no members in Guatemala. We rely on the local Rotary Clubs to gain community acceptance. As I stated in an previous reply, we use the World Bank COCODE Training Program to educate the community leaders. We rely on a local non-profit, PROTEC, to do that training and to provide some sanitation training along with the community management training. That training is part of our grants. I do not think that one time training changes too many habits, I think the training needs to be done many times before it is accepted. We hope to do that by non-water related projects that improve the lives of the community members.
Besides the five water projects completed or started in Guatemala, our Rotary Club in partnership with many other clubs have completed over 20 projects, most others in education and health.
We currently have a Global Grant for $89,000 to help with the Dengue Fever outbreak in this area of Guatemala. Since there is no cure or immunization for Dengue yet, the biggest effort is education and habit changing. We know from five previous Dengue projects in this area of Guatemala that these habits are hard to change and this project will be repeating education that was done previously in some areas.

As far as Rotary participation is concerned, we have not seen any lack of interest in the clubs we work with. That could be because they are all fairly new clubs. We work with the Gualan Rotary which started in 2001. The Gualan club then got the Chiquimula Rotary club started in 2004 and the Los Amates club started in 2009. Both the Gualan and Chiquimula Rotary Clubs generally have their limit of five projects going at the same time and both clubs have only about 20 members. From the pictures that they send us about the project during implementation, it is apparent that they are involved throughout the project. They are amazing.
We did have problems with the water projects we did in El Salvador with Rotary participation. We think that is because EWB picked the projects and not the Rotary Clubs and we had to ask for them to participate so we could get a Matching Grant. That is why we want the Rotary Clubs to pick the projects.

Alan

Education and acceptabilty

By Bank-On-Rain Posted on Mon 31 Jan 2011, almost 14 years ago

Alan and Carolyn,

Interesting comment abount EWB. As a disappointed former member of EWB, I think they have some structual problems and are lacking in post-project follow-up. Education and local acceptance/ownership of the projects are vital to their success, but often overlooked.

Mike

Education and acceptabilty

By Water For The Americas Posted on Mon 07 Feb 2011, almost 14 years ago

Mike,

I am also disappointed in the follow-up process of EWB. My experience is that the leadership of the EWB projects at the University level is mainly with seniors and that when they graduate, there are fewer chapter members who are willing to carry on with the project. Some of the projects are done for Senior Engineering Projects and once the project is done and a report is given there is little incentive to continue. We have been lucky that the leader of two of our projects has stayed in contact with the two community leaders and has visited them after graduation.

What I really like about the EWB projects is the reaction to almost all chapter members who visit the communities, stay in community members homes and develop a good working relationship, at least short term, with community members. It usually changes the students lives for the better, to the point that they may get involved with humanitarian efforts after graduation. More than one of the students that we worked with have become Peace Corps Volunteers, mainly because of their experience with an EWB project.

We have been trying, without much success, to get the local EWB student chapter involved with our Guatemala Water projects where we can do the follow-up processes. We have been unsuccessful in this. I think that the problem is that the National EWB organization has an excess of projects and will not allow chapters to start projects on their own. I hope that changes.

We are going to continue to try to work with EWB and help with the sustainability aspect.