Provision of Safe water to four villages in

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Beneficiary numbers

Rajesh Shah of Blue Planet Network

Please explain the numbers: we would like to see the numbers that going to be impacted by this proposal. Reading the text, it appears that the numbers refer to the people already helped by earlier projects (39 wells and a borewell) or one could read it as the total population. It is the same problem in both the applications.
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Please explain the numbers: we would like to see the numbers that going to be impacted by this proposal. Reading the text, it appears that the numbers refer to the people already helped by earlier projects (39 wells and a borewell) or one could read it as the total population. It is the same problem in both the applications.

For funders it is important to see an estimate of the number of beneficiaries.
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Area coverage and distance from old projects

Rajesh Shah of Blue Planet Network

The “Project Background” provides good clarity on the history of the work. Could you please explain a bit on the geographical spread of this work and how close the new projects will be from the old. Is there some estimate of how much coverage is being achieved and how much is left?

The “Project Background” provides good clarity on the history of the work. Could you please explain a bit on the geographical spread of this work and how close the new projects will be from the old. Is there some estimate of how much coverage is being achieved and how much is left?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Out of 24 villages in the three wards where we planned to cover only 9 villages have been covered , 16 of them are not yet covered in our targeted areas( semi rural wards in songea urban) where we expect to cover other 4 villages this year. The distance from new to old projects is approximately 1-5 km.
  
  Out of 24 villages in the three wards where we planned to cover only 9 villages have been covered , 16 of them are not yet covered in our targeted areas( semi rural wards in songea urban) where we expect to cover other 4 villages this year. The distance from new to old projects is approximately 1-5 km.
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"stream capping"

Gemma Bulos of A Single Drop

Can you explain in detail what "stream capping"? If you are referring to some "traditional" water wells, I think it benefit so many of us who may be caught up in the new technologies what makes this "traditional" I would like to hear more about how you pick your people who will do the maintenance, supervision, who are the implementers. ...

Can you explain in detail what "stream capping"? If you are referring to some "traditional" water wells, I think it benefit so many of us who may be caught up in the new technologies what makes this "traditional"

I would like to hear more about how you pick your people who will do the maintenance, supervision, who are the implementers. The two people who will be maintaining, are they volunteers? The supervisors of the well implementation, are they staff from PADI and what is their role in follow-up, M&E, etc? Who collects the money and monitors the WMF?

What have been your challenges in picking the "right" people in the community to take on some of the responsibilities? Have you had any issues of corruption or misuse of funds? If yes, what did you learn?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Dear Gemma, thanks for the questions. i) Stream capping or spring capping is a method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following; 1. Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to ...
  
  Dear Gemma, thanks for the questions.
  i) Stream capping or spring capping is a method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following;
  
  1. Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to
  form natural water conduits (pipes)
  2. The stones are covered with a layer of clay to block easy penetration of surface
  run-off (water).
  3. The trenches which converge are then back filled with in situ soil
  4. A cut off wall of good burnt bricks or sand-cement blocks is constructed
  downstream the convergences to receive the improved water supply.
  A box like space behind the wall is likewise filled with porous stones and then
  sealed with clay and backfilled with said.
  5. The cut-off wall carries 3 short pipes, outlet, wash out and overflow pipes
  carrying wood plug stoppers as may be necessary
  6 A bucket stand is constructed below the outlet pipe
  7. Access path to bucket stand is constructed
  9. Improvement of water flow from the improved well is then carried out.
  
  ii)The people who will do the maintenance supervision and implementers are being picked by the villagers under their village government leaders supervision.
  
  iii) The two people who will be maintaining the wells are volunteers from the well location ( village). To encourage them or to recognize their work,PADI make yearly wells evaluation, those who have managed to care well their wells are being awarded each year from PADI office Tsh. 5,000-10,000/- but as the program/project is expanding we plan to use those who perform well in caring the wells in educating others to do the same as part of awarding and recognizing their effort.
  .
  iv)The money are being collected by the Water wells committees and being monitored by PADI in collaboration with village government through reports and visiting the well sites..
  
  v) The supervisor always is coming from PADI staff (Project Manager and Project Technician) working hand in hand with the wells monitoring committee(WMC).
  
  vi) The challenges we are facing on getting the right person to take some of responsibilities is not very big because the right people are being picked by themselves(they now well each other) in the village. If it happens that the person is not doing as they have been expecting to be they always re pick others. In case some one has misused the fund , the responsible person is required to pay and be discontinued from duty. Misuse of funds is minimized by conducting village meeting quarterly and all money are kept in Bank ,only taken when needed and approved by the committee.(Receipts and bank pay in slip are being checked comparing with actual contributions made in each quarter).
  Thanks Msigwa
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"stream capping"

Gemma Bulos of A Single Drop

Can you explain in detail what "stream capping"? If you are referring to some "traditional" water wells, I think it benefit so many of us who may be caught up in the new technologies what makes this "traditional" I would like to hear more about how you pick your people who will do the maintenance, supervision, who are the implementers. ...

Can you explain in detail what "stream capping"? If you are referring to some "traditional" water wells, I think it benefit so many of us who may be caught up in the new technologies what makes this "traditional"

I would like to hear more about how you pick your people who will do the maintenance, supervision, who are the implementers. The two people who will be maintaining, are they volunteers? The supervisors of the well implementation, are they staff from PADI and what is their role in follow-up, M&E, etc? Who collects the money and monitors the WMF?

What have been your challenges in picking the "right" people in the community to take on some of the responsibilities? Have you had any issues of corruption or misuse of funds? If yes, what did you learn?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Dear Gemma, thanks for the questions. i) Stream capping or spring capping is a method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following; 1. Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to ...
  
  Dear Gemma, thanks for the questions.
  i) Stream capping or spring capping is a method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following;
  
  1. Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to
  form natural water conduits (pipes)
  2. The stones are covered with a layer of clay to block easy penetration of surface
  run-off (water).
  3. The trenches which converge are then back filled with in situ soil
  4. A cut off wall of good burnt bricks or sand-cement blocks is constructed
  downstream the convergences to receive the improved water supply.
  A box like space behind the wall is likewise filled with porous stones and then
  sealed with clay and backfilled with said.
  5. The cut-off wall carries 3 short pipes, outlet, wash out and overflow pipes
  carrying wood plug stoppers as may be necessary
  6 A bucket stand is constructed below the outlet pipe
  7. Access path to bucket stand is constructed
  9. Improvement of water flow from the improved well is then carried out.
  
  ii)The people who will do the maintenance supervision and implementers are being picked by the villagers under their village government leaders supervision.
  
  iii) The two people who will be maintaining the wells are volunteers from the well location ( village). To encourage them or to recognize their work,PADI make yearly wells evaluation, those who have managed to care well their wells are being awarded each year from PADI office Tsh. 5,000-10,000/- but as the program/project is expanding we plan to use those who perform well in caring the wells in educating others to do the same as part of awarding and recognizing their effort.
  .
  iv)The money are being collected by the Water wells committees and being monitored by PADI in collaboration with village government through reports and visiting the well sites..
  
  v) The supervisor always is coming from PADI staff (Project Manager and Project Technician) working hand in hand with the wells monitoring committee(WMC).
  
  vi) The challenges we are facing on getting the right person to take some of responsibilities is not very big because the right people are being picked by themselves(they now well each other) in the village. If it happens that the person is not doing as they have been expecting to be they always re pick others. In case some one has misused the fund , the responsible person is required to pay and be discontinued from duty. Misuse of funds is minimized by conducting village meeting quarterly and all money are kept in Bank ,only taken when needed and approved by the committee.(Receipts and bank pay in slip are being checked comparing with actual contributions made in each quarter).
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Well construction material estimate

Idriss Kamara of Safer Future Youth Development Project

Thanks Iskaka. Could you please help us with the mixture ratio for the well construction and how thick will be the walls?

Thanks Iskaka.
Could you please help us with the mixture ratio for the well construction and how thick will be the walls?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  The ratio for the well construction is 10 : 1 ( sand: cement) enough to get 20-25 cement sand block bricks. And the thick of the wall depends on the size of the bricks. Thanks Msigwa
  
  The ratio for the well construction is 10 : 1 ( sand: cement) enough to get 20-25 cement sand block bricks. And the thick of the wall depends on the size of the bricks.
  
  Thanks
  Msigwa
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Getting Sanitation

Rick McGowan of East Meets West Foundation

The term "getting sanitation" usually means that people get access to sanitary latrines, typically with access to water to wash their hands. However, in this proposal, people are apparently "getting sanitation" by "using safe and clean water they have been supported". Is this really "getting sanitation" in the sense that most people mean...

The term "getting sanitation" usually means that people get access to sanitary latrines, typically with access to water to wash their hands.

However, in this proposal, people are apparently "getting sanitation" by "using safe and clean water they have been supported".

Is this really "getting sanitation" in the sense that most people mean?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Dear Rick McGowan, The Ideal behind was they are using clean and safe in the project area as the source of water to them, the same water being used in sanitation including washing hands and latrines. But we did not mean they get sanitation because they have safe and clean water.
  
  Dear Rick McGowan,
  The Ideal behind was they are using clean and safe in the project area as the source of water to them, the same water being used in sanitation including washing hands and latrines. But we did not mean they get sanitation because they have safe and clean water.
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Beneficiary numbers

Rajesh Shah of Blue Planet Network

Please explain the numbers: we would like to see the numbers that going to be impacted by this proposal. Reading the text, it appears that the numbers refer to the people already helped by earlier projects (39 wells and a borewell) or one could read it as the total population. It is the same problem in both the applications.
For funder
...

Please explain the numbers: we would like to see the numbers that going to be impacted by this proposal. Reading the text, it appears that the numbers refer to the people already helped by earlier projects (39 wells and a borewell) or one could read it as the total population. It is the same problem in both the applications.

For funders it is important to see an estimate of the number of beneficiaries.
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Sorry the Beneficiary number who are going to be impacted by this proposal didn’t appear in our project Background, it appeared only in short project description which is 3000 it has been estimated that number of beneficiaries will be 100 people per well who are part of the total population of is 5,000 people. It is true that the Nu...
  
  Sorry the Beneficiary number who are going to be impacted by this proposal didn’t appear in our project Background, it appeared only in short project description which is 3000 it has been estimated that number of beneficiaries will be 100 people per well who are part of the total population of is 5,000 people.
  
  It is true that the Number of people benefiting from the past projects is the same in both applications because the project we expect to implement this year will be in the same wards we implemented last projects except it will be in different schools and villages. The beneficiaries are the part of the total population of 37,303 people in the three wards where we implement the project.
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Sorry the Beneficiary number who are going to be impacted by this proposal didn’t appear in our project Background, it appeared only in short project description which is 3000 it has been estimated that number of beneficiaries will be 100 people per well who are part of the total population of is 5,000 people. It is true that the Nu...
  
  Sorry the Beneficiary number who are going to be impacted by this proposal didn’t appear in our project Background, it appeared only in short project description which is 3000 it has been estimated that number of beneficiaries will be 100 people per well who are part of the total population of is 5,000 people.
  
  It is true that the Number of people benefiting from the past projects is the same in both applications because the project we expect to implement this year will be in the same wards we implemented last projects except it will be in different schools and villages. The beneficiaries are the part of the total population of 37,303 people in the three wards where we implement the project.
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Improved technology

Marc Despiegelaere of Protos

Dear friends, PROTOS also experienced the "improved traditional water wells" where the water table is close to surface and no other water ressources are available. During the last 3 years, tests have been done e.g. on the islands in the Kivu-lake (DR Congo). If there are no other ressources available, this can be a sound solution for ru...

Dear friends,
PROTOS also experienced the "improved traditional water wells" where the water table is close to surface and no other water ressources are available. During the last 3 years, tests have been done e.g. on the islands in the Kivu-lake (DR Congo).
If there are no other ressources available, this can be a sound solution for rural, poor and isolated communities, but we have to consider that "safe water" is not easy with this technology. Infiltration of surface water can not be avoided and the infiltration time is not enough to clear the water from bacterial contamination - since the water table is not very deep.
Tests we have done show an improvement of water quality, but not a water of generally recognised drinking water standards.
Therefore, two main messages have to be given to the water users:
1°) Avoid any constructions, animals, latrines or even cultivation of the upstream land, so that the infiltrating water is not contaminated (or infiltrates much far away).
2°) Ask people to boil their water before drinking, especially for vulnerable groups such as small children.
What is PADI doing with respect to hygiene sensitisation, spring protection, water quality monitoring and so on ?
Regards
Stef Lambrecht (Marc from PROTOS is on holidays)
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  Dear Macr Despiegelaere Thank you very much for your observation and recommendation. We have taken note. i) For the case of our areas this type of the well are constructed almost 100-350 meters away from homes and we do so in area where no way they can be accessing clean water for a number of years. ii)During training on how to c...
  
  Dear Macr Despiegelaere
  Thank you very much for your observation and recommendation. We have taken note.
  
  i) For the case of our areas this type of the well are constructed almost 100-350 meters away from homes and we do so in area where no way they can be accessing clean water for a number of years.
  
  ii)During training on how to care and maintain the wells we teach them to take the following precaution on care and maintenance of the wells:
  • To avoid washing, bathing , cultivating or doing any sort of human activities including cultivation of the upstream land to avoid deforestations and water contamination.
  • Also we teach them to practice a forestation around the well areas to avoid water source dry up
  According to our water Technician this technology help most of people accessing clean and safe water than those using open wells as shown in our attached photos provided the distance and above precautions are taken into consideration. For more clarification see the attached doc. Recommendation from Municipal Senior Water Techinician.
- Rick McGowan of East Meets West Foundation
  
  Although I may not clearly understand the situation here, while water from shallow groundwater springs can often be of good quality, using such shallow (1.5 m) wells concerns me. There is only a brief mention of water quality tests of the proposed wells. Were these tests done with proper equipment, or just subjective judgement? Since t...
  
  Although I may not clearly understand the situation here, while water from shallow groundwater springs can often be of good quality, using such shallow (1.5 m) wells concerns me. There is only a brief mention of water quality tests of the proposed wells. Were these tests done with proper equipment, or just subjective judgement? Since the wells are only 1.5 meters deep, I wonder how they could possibly provide water of acceptable quality to the proposed beneficiaries over the long run. Pls explain how you can assure adequate water quality to the proposed consumers in such a situation.
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Material estimate and management of funds.

Idriss Kamara of Safer Future Youth Development Project

What will be the depth of the wells you are going to construct and how realistic is the amount of cement to the 30 wells that will be constructed? Who will be directly responsible to manage the water maintenance funds?

What will be the depth of the wells you are going to construct and how realistic is the amount of cement to the 30 wells that will be constructed?

Who will be directly responsible to manage the water maintenance funds?
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 ba...
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 bags of cement are used to construction and plastering the wells. See “STREAM CAPPING or SPRING CAPPING CONSTRUCTION PROCEDURES”. A method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following;
  
  i.Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to form natural water conduits (pipes)
  ii.The stones are covered with a layer of clay to block easy penetration of surface run-off (water)
  iii.The trenches which converge are then back filled with in situ soil
  iv.A cut off wall of good burnt bricks or sand-cement blocks is constructed downstream the convergences to receive the improved water supply. A box like space behind the wall is likewise filled with porous stones and then sealed with clay and backfilled with soil.
  v.The cut-off wall carries 3 short pipes, outlet, wash out and overflow pipes carrying wood plug stoppers as may be necessary
  vi.A bucket stand is constructed below the outlet pipe
  vii.Access path to bucket stand is constructed
  viii.Improvement of water flow from the improved well is then carried out.
  
  Water maintenance fund (WMF) will be directly managed by the water monitoring committee (WMC) under the supervision of village Government chairperson or village Executive Officer but they are not allowed to be among the signatories. The committee members are being selected by the community benefiting from the wells
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 ba...
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 bags of cement are used to construction and plastering the wells. See “STREAM CAPPING or SPRING CAPPING CONSTRUCTION PROCEDURES”. A method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following;
  
  i.Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to form natural water conduits (pipes)
  ii.The stones are covered with a layer of clay to block easy penetration of surface run-off (water)
  iii.The trenches which converge are then back filled with in situ soil
  iv.A cut off wall of good burnt bricks or sand-cement blocks is constructed downstream the convergences to receive the improved water supply. A box like space behind the wall is likewise filled with porous stones and then sealed with clay and backfilled with soil.
  v.The cut-off wall carries 3 short pipes, outlet, wash out and overflow pipes carrying wood plug stoppers as may be necessary
  vi.A bucket stand is constructed below the outlet pipe
  vii.Access path to bucket stand is constructed
  viii.Improvement of water flow from the improved well is then carried out.
  
  Water maintenance fund (WMF) will be directly managed by the water monitoring committee (WMC) under the supervision of village Government chairperson or village Executive Officer but they are not allowed to be among the signatories. The committee members are being selected by the community benefiting from the wells
- Iskaka Msigwa of Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI)
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 ba...
  
  The Depth of the Improved Traditional water well is approximately 1-1½ meters and 1-1½ meters wide less or more depending on the nature of the area where the well construction is taking place. These wells need 8 bags of cement per well where 3 bags of cement are used to make 60 PCs of sand-cement blocks used in well construction, 5 bags of cement are used to construction and plastering the wells. See “STREAM CAPPING or SPRING CAPPING CONSTRUCTION PROCEDURES”. A method employed to improve water quality and water quantity in open wells in valleys by use of the sloping ground. In constructing the wells it involves the following;
  
  i.Digging trenches along spring eyes and filling them with stones (boulders) to form natural water conduits (pipes)
  ii.The stones are covered with a layer of clay to block easy penetration of surface run-off (water)
  iii.The trenches which converge are then back filled with in situ soil
  iv.A cut off wall of good burnt bricks or sand-cement blocks is constructed downstream the convergences to receive the improved water supply. A box like space behind the wall is likewise filled with porous stones and then sealed with clay and backfilled with soil.
  v.The cut-off wall carries 3 short pipes, outlet, wash out and overflow pipes carrying wood plug stoppers as may be necessary
  vi.A bucket stand is constructed below the outlet pipe
  vii.Access path to bucket stand is constructed
  viii.Improvement of water flow from the improved well is then carried out.
  
  Water maintenance fund (WMF) will be directly managed by the water monitoring committee (WMC) under the supervision of village Government chairperson or village Executive Officer but they are not allowed to be among the signatories. The committee members are being selected by the community benefiting from the wells

Rating: 6

review by d.o.b foundation

Seems like a good project with an approach and techniques that are appropriate in the conditions at issue. Responsibilities however seem somewhat informal. That could be important for sustainable results and with an eye on connecting to other and future initiatives water suppy and sanitation.
Rating: 5

review by Safer Future Youth Development Project

For long term sustainance and to ensure pure drinking water, the construction of shallow wells or stream would have been avoided for proper deep wells targetting the actual water table.
Rating: 4

review by Water for People

PADI appears to be a very valuable organization in the community but assessing this proposal is difficult because the information is fragmented and incomplete.
Rating: 6

review by East Meets West Foundation

Aside from my concern about the very shallow wells (and the likelihood of contamination unless the wells are very well maintained and properly used by the beneficiaries), it seems to be a cost-effective use of the BPR/PWX funding. The management and O&M arrangements need to be better described, and they need to clarify the fact that “getting sanitation” means sanitary latrines, not just clean water to wash your hands with after defecation. There is also no detailed budget attached to the proposal. There is no mention of the words “cost” or “budget”. It would be helpful in the next round of PWX funding to provide a more detailed project proposal template so that organizations making proposals know exactly what information they need to provide in order to maximize the chances that their proposals will be successful.
Rating: 7

review by Protos

If there are no water ressources available, the technology might be the only option. Nevertheless, these kind of water wells can not garantee a potable water . Therefor, other preventive and educational activities should be conducted. Monitoring water quality is essential in those circomstances. It seems that these elements are poorly developped in the proposal.
Rating: 7

review by Blue Planet Network

This is a different and good approach that we would like to support. I would like to see results (from this or previous projects) at least one year after project completion, to see how the water quality is and the behavior change to protect water supply.

Sanitation has been brought up as a concern and i hope that the project uses the experience of the other peers and adapts.
Rating: 4

review by A Single Drop

I support grassroots orgs. I think they have much to share about implementation. For future proposal submissions, I think more attention to detail and description of models could make the submission much more effective.

Name	Status	Completion Date	Final Cost
Provision of Safe water to four villages in	completed	Dec 2008	0
Provision of Safe water to four villages in	completed	Jan 2009	0
Provision of Safe water to four villages in sonea district	completed	Nov 2008	8,872

Plan Amount:	14,405
Amount Funded:	8,880
Community Contribution:	5,525

plan 116 Provision of Safe water to four villages in

by Tanzania Mission to the Poor and Disabled (PADI) in Tanzania

Status: Plan accepted

Peer Review

Summary

Background

Location

Attachments

Focus

People Getting Safe Drinking Water: 6,200

School Children Getting Water: 1,500

People Getting Sanitation: 6,200

People Getting Other Benefits: 3,500

Start Date: 2008-08-01

Completion Date: 2008-11-30

Technology Used:

Phases:

Community Organization:

Government Interaction:

Ancillary activities:

Other Issues:

Maintenance Revenue:

Maintenance Cost: $261

Metrics:

Cost: $14,405

Co Funding Amount: $0

Community Contribution Amount: $5,525

Fund Requested: $8,880

Attachments